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Beating the RNG by counting spins

13 August 2007

Just wondering if anyone else uses my strategy and it seems to work very well. RNG generates a number on the virtual reel for each of five columns. It tells the machine where to stop. Yes that is simple, most 2nd graders understand this.

On the new video slots each row might have 200 symbols. YET THE RNG generates numbers 1-32 still. Meaning you must at least spin seven times to get back to symbol 200. So play less credits for the next six spins after you see the symbol you want. Each machine varies on the intervals.

If the RNG generates numbers 1-32 and you could literally count out the number of minimum spins it will take you to get back to your bonus game symbol. It may take you much longer if you RNG all low numbers, but you can still cut out a lot of spending. Making the payback much higher percentage.

I've noticed on a lot of machines if I see a wild on the column 1, IT WILL NOT BE SEEN AGAIN FOR AT LEAST 3-10 spins. No matter what. This is how I started and it has been working so far.

Am I crazy in my logic? I have no schooling I just think there is a way to get the bonus rounds to pay more because I bet more after so many spins. Only works after you see the symbol in the column you want. Some newer machines may have RNG of 1-100 and 3,000 symbols on each column.

Any thoughts? Thanks a lot and yes I've been winning a lot more.

There is one small problem with your theory. If a reel has 200 symbols, the RNG will generate numbers from 1 to 200 for that reel. The RNG does not "generate numbers 1-32 still."

Regulations require that any combination listed on the pay table be possible on every spin. Thus, any symbol on every reel can land on the payline on any spin. Under your theory, only some symbols could be chosen, which means not every outcome would be possible and that would be illegal.

I'm glad you've been winning a lot more. I think the reason you've been winning more is because you've been betting less on some spins, which lets you get more spins from your bankroll, which gives you more chances of hitting something.

The reason you see a number of spins in between seeing certain symbols is because of the probability of landing those symbols (i.e., the number of times they appear on the virtual reel).

Best of luck in and out of the casinos,
John

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John Robison is an expert on slot machines and how to play them. John is a slot and video poker columnist and has written for many of gaming’s leading publications. He holds a master's degree in computer science from the prestigious Stevens Institute of Technology.

You may hear John give his slot and video poker tips live on The Good Times Show, hosted by Rudi Schiffer and Mike Schiffer, which is broadcast from Memphis on KXIQ 1180AM Friday afternoon from from 2PM to 5PM Central Time. John is on the show from 4:30 to 5. You can listen to archives of the show on the web anytime.

Books by John Robison:

The Slot Expert's Guide to Playing Slots
John Robison
John Robison is an expert on slot machines and how to play them. John is a slot and video poker columnist and has written for many of gaming’s leading publications. He holds a master's degree in computer science from the prestigious Stevens Institute of Technology.

You may hear John give his slot and video poker tips live on The Good Times Show, hosted by Rudi Schiffer and Mike Schiffer, which is broadcast from Memphis on KXIQ 1180AM Friday afternoon from from 2PM to 5PM Central Time. John is on the show from 4:30 to 5. You can listen to archives of the show on the web anytime.

Books by John Robison:

The Slot Expert's Guide to Playing Slots