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Proper Use of the Hardway Set

13 November 2011

Hello Stickman,

I use the 2V or the 3V when my dice are behaving properly otherwise I stick with the Hardway set. I have one question that did not seem to come up in any of the books. Does how you set the dice in the Hardway set, such as the 3s on top or 5s on top, tend to produce different numbers?

For example, when the point is 9, I set the 5s on top and the 3s facing me because I tend to throw a lot of 9s from that set. I also seem to throw very few 8s from that set.

I would like to take a GTC class. I would just have to be able to time a trip when you have a class. Hopefully I can do that in the future. I did take one class with another individual. Unfortunately it was with someone who had never played before so we did not get to work on my toss very much.

Thank you for your time,
Ralph

Hi Ralph,

GTC always recommends setting the hardway set (or any set you use) exactly the same way each time. If you decide to have 5s on top and 3s facing you, then do this EACH AND EVERY time you set the dice.

We say this for two reasons: 1) by doing exactly the same thing, you tend to get the same results, but more importantly, 2) by always setting the dice the same way, you don't have to think when you throw. This is what you need to start getting long rolls. Once you start thinking about what you are doing, you have most likely lost your edge.

When you use the hardway set it is better for you to come bet as no particular number is favored by the hardway set. It is a 7s avoidance set. Once you know your dice are on axis consistently, you can start using the 3V set, which doesn't have as much protection against the 7, but it favors hitting the 6 and 8. You can place the 6 and/or 8 and make money even though your rolls will probably be shorter.

I hope this helps, Ralph. You seem very serious and level-headed about your foray into dice control and I really respect that. I would love to meet you at a class in the near future. I know you will find it is well worth the time and expense. You just can't get the same results any other way.

All the best,
Jerry "Stickman"

Jerry Stickman

Jerry “Stickman” is an expert in craps, blackjack and video poker and advantage slot machine play. He is a regular contributor to top gaming magazines. He authored the video poker section of Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo, and Pai Gow Poker! You can contact Jerry "Stickman" at stickmanjerryg@gmail.com.

Jerry Stickman Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com
Jerry Stickman
Jerry “Stickman” is an expert in craps, blackjack and video poker and advantage slot machine play. He is a regular contributor to top gaming magazines. He authored the video poker section of Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo, and Pai Gow Poker! You can contact Jerry "Stickman" at stickmanjerryg@gmail.com.

Jerry Stickman Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com