Using the 5-Count on the dark side

Frank,

Just recently read Larry Edell's article "The Secrets of Hedge Systems," dated Feb. 3, 2008, on this site and was curious about your opinion of using the 5-Count when betting the dark side on a cold table after the point has been established.

I am trying to glean information from many sources and incorporate it together where I think it might be appropriate.

I read and enjoy your articles, and have had success using your strategies.

Yours truly,
Ed

Hi Ed:

Against random rollers the use of the 5-Count is to make you last longer so you can get on controlled shooters (those the Captain called "rhythmic rollers") who can actually give you an edge over the house; save your money so it lasts longer, and continue to get your usual array of comps. On random rollers every bet comes with a house edge, whether that bet is a do or a don't.

I have to disagree with you on one thing. There is no such thing as a "cold table" because a table is just a table. The shooters at a table might have sevened out early in the recent past but that is no indication whatsoever that this will continue. A random game is just a random game, with all sorts of streaks, some of them freaky, but none of them predictable from past events.

Check out these articles on the 5-Count and I think you will find them to answer almost all of your questions — including whether the 5-Count can give you an edge or not.

"The 5-Count is 100 Proof" by Frank Scoblete — http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/proof.shtml

"The 5-Count Changes the Odds of the Game" by Skinny — http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/skinny0001.shtml

"The 5-Count is Not a Charting Method" by Skinny — http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/skinny0003.shtml

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Frank Scoblete