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# The lowdown on Never Ever Craps

1 September 2015

FROM DANNY: I read your articles all the time. Could you do one on the craps games called Never Ever Craps? This is the one where every number is a point. Is this a better game than traditional craps?

Thanks so much.

FRANK RESPONDS: Never Ever Craps is often called Crapless Craps because you cannot lose on a craps number during a come-out roll. There is no don’t pass bet at this game.

In traditional craps, a 7 or 11 will win on the pass line and the 2, 3 and 12 will lose. The player has a 2-to-1 advantage on the come out because the 7 and 11 will appear eight times and the 2, 3 and 12 will appear four times.

This won’t happen in Never Ever Craps because the come-out roll does not count the craps numbers as wins or losses; these numbers would become points just as all the other numbers do. However, the 11 does not win on the come out either. It too becomes a point number. Still, it looks great that you can win on the 7 six times and not take any losses.

But looks can be deceiving. Because the 11 appears two times during come outs in regular craps, not winning on it during Never Ever Craps creates a house edge of 5.38%, almost four times worse than the 1.41% on the traditional pass line wager.

Let’s take a look at how Never Ever Craps stacks up against regular craps:

Pass line (no odds): 1.41% traditional craps
Pass line (no odds): 5.38 N.E.C.

Pass line with 1x odds: 0.85% traditional craps
Pass line with 1x odds: 2.94% N.E.C.

Pass line with 2x odds: 0.57% traditional craps
Pass line with 2x odds: 2.02% N.E.C.

Pass line with 3x odds: 0.47% traditional craps
Pass line with 3x odds: 1.54% N.E.C.

Pass line with 5x odds: 0.33% traditional craps
Pass line with 5x odds: 1.04% N.E.C.

You can see how Never Ever Craps takes a much larger percentage of your pass line wager than traditional craps. The place bets of the 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10 have the same house edge as at traditional craps:

4, 10 = 6.67%
5, 9 = 4.0%
6, 8 = 1.52%

The place bets on the 2, 12 (which pay 11 to 2) come in with a house edge of 7.14%.
The place bets on the 3, 11 (which pay 11 to 4) come in with a house edge of 6.25%.

Given a choice between playing traditional craps or Never Ever Craps, the wise move is to stick to tradition.

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Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

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