The 5-Count and rolling six numbers in a row

7 May 2013

By Frank Scoblete

Dear Frank:

Your book (“Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!”) stirred up some good debates with a friend of mine this weekend. Like I mentioned in an earlier e-mail I have a table that was my grandfather’s in my garage. We put some time in practicing and talking it was a blast. Neither one of us can get dice control down but it was fun trying. I will say that I'm determined to get it down and won't stop until I have it. After all I was quite the pitcher when I was younger and my career started out pitching nickels.

We put in a session this weekend at the local casino that I'd like to share. One of our debates was about the 5-Count. I use a three count usually and my friend doesn't even know how to count.

The casino was packed when we arrived and waited about 30 minutes to get on a table that appeared to be (cold). I decided to go with the 5-Count until I got a feel for the game. After five shooters I did not place a wager and my friend was re-buying. I proceeded to play the “don't pass” with heavy odds from that point on without a count. I just came out firing until the (trend) turned on me. We played for three hours before one person made two points, it was ugly. This was one of the coldest tables I've seen in a while.

I know that there was no way of predicting what was going to happen but I'm glad I believe in trends for nights like these. I was the only one to survive that table. I can't believe it's so hard for people to play the “don't” when the table is running cold. Any way there was one guy that was attempting to control his throw, attempt is the key word. I play the Indiana and Illinois casinos. There are very few people in this area that control their throw, it would be nice to see a pro such as you in action.

Thanks again,
Jeff


Dear Frank:

Have you rolled 6 consecutive numbers on a craps table? I did this at the Flamingo Las Vegas last week, then after 6 (3's), I rolled a 12 and then out with a (6, 1) combo. My coolest worst game.

I play in Vegas and AC, mostly within the Harrah’s group of casinos. Have a 7 star card, love craps and something inside very strong makes me feel like I can do well in this game. My current issue though is to be able to pull my bets down after making some money so I can have a many perfect games (no loss) and build up my tray chip count. So many times I leave too much money out on table. It is really difficult to do this in the excitement of a good roll. I am convinced that to be in control of my emotions and very aware of keeping more of the chips earned will keep me playing on casino money.

How can I hear more about how you use the 5-Count analysis to weed out the poor shooters?

Thank you for responding to my previous e-mail. Do you or have you practiced dice throws with your own table? You prefer long or the shorter tables? Where did you shoot from or what spot?

Karl

Dear Karl:

Last month in Atlantic City I rolled 11 eights in 12 rolls and then went on to roll 26 eights out of 45 numbers for that particular turn with the dice. I have seen rolls even better. My dice-control partner, Jerry “Stickman” clobbered the Grand (now Harrah’s) in Tunica with 23 sixes out of 28 numbers! I think that was a roll of a lifetime.

Unusual streaks are not as unusual as you think. Even when we are not dealing with controlled shooters (as “Stickman” is) randomness calls forth really wild streaks. It is the nature of things.

As for taking your bets down, why not bet smaller so you don’t leave as much money on the table? If you are betting on random rollers the game is strictly based on the probabilities and the one definite probability is that the casino will have the edge over you. So go with smaller bets and don’t worry about leaving money on the table – you cannot predict what will happen. Smaller bets equal smaller worries.

I prefer to shoot from stick left one or stick right one.

For your letter I am sending you a copy of my book “The Virgin Kiss.” If you are looking for a book that fully explains the 5-Count along with controlled shooting I recommend “Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!”

All the best in and out of the casinos,

Frank Scoblete