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Does completing the 5-Count reduce the house edge?

15 March 2009

Dear Frank,

I play craps using the 5-Count. I bet the pass line with odds and then make come bets with odds after the 5-Count has been established. If the shooter continues past the 5-Count and then I make my come bets, does this reduce the overall house edge over me?

What is the house edge on me at this point? I figure it's about 0.35. Am I wrong? I bought your book Golden Touch Dice Control Revolution! and I found it to be very helpful to my game.

Please drop me a line with your answer.

Thanks.

Mr. B

Dear Mr. B:

The 5-Count does not change the house edge in a random game. Whatever the house edge of the bet before the 5-Count is completed will be the house edge after the 5-Count is completed.

The 5-Count will reduce the number of random rolls you face by 57% so your losses go down accordingly. If there is a controlled shooter at your table the 5-Count, according to studies done by Skinny of Golden Touch Craps, will change the house edge by allowing you to get onto that shooter almost 11% more than someone betting every roll of every shooter. Go here for information about the 5-Count and advantage-play: http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/skinny0001.shtml

I am giving you a free 30-day subscription to my private members-only website at www.goldentouchcraps.com.

We have over 5,000 members on this private site and the conversations are interesting, enlightening and fun.

Enjoy!

All the best in and out of the casinos!

Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete

Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com

Books by Frank Scoblete:

Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!

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Frank Scoblete
Frank Scoblete is the #1 best selling gaming author in America. His newest books are Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines; Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo and Pai Gow Poker!; Beat Blackjack Now: The Easiest Way to Get the Edge; Casino Craps: Shoot to Win!; Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players; Casino Conquest: Beat the Casinos at Their Own Games! and The Virgin Kiss.

Frank and Casino City Times columnist Jerry "Stickman" teach private lessons in dice control. Frank's books are available at Amazon.com, in bookstores or by mail order. Call 1-800-944-0406 or write to Frank Scoblete Enterprises, PO Box 446, Malverne, NY 11565. Frank can also be reached by email at fscobe@optonline.net.

Frank Scoblete Websites:

www.goldentouchcraps.com
www.goldentouchblackjack.com

Books by Frank Scoblete:

> More Books By Frank Scoblete