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Jumbotron Ron
 

Betting on Other Controlled Shooters

20 February 2011

When betting on other controlled shooters there are various factors that should be taken into consideration.

  1. Is the shooter demonstrating any level of control over the dice?
  2. Do you want to bet on the shooter like a controlled shooter or a random roller?
  3. Is the shooter in the right position?
  4. Does the shooter appear to be fatigued or intoxicated?
  5. How is the shooter betting on himself?

1. The best way to figure out if the shooter has any level of control over the dice is to look at the dice. There are tools such as SmartCraps and keeping track of your SRR [editor's note: seven-to-rolls ratio -- random is one seven per six rolls] that statistically prove whether you are or not altering a dice roll but in the heat of battle you still have to use your eyes.

Look at the shot and ask yourself a few questions. Are the dice rotating end over end and staying together? When the dice touch down, do they roll to and from the back wall softly without popping and rolling all around? Is the shooter maintaining or coming close to maintaining his initial set? These are the elements of a good controlled throw and should be taken into consideration when betting on another controlled shooter. You should also use the 5-Count on controlled shooters until you are certain that the shooter is on. Controlled shooters have dynamic, ever-changing edges so you are asking for trouble by jumping all in on a controlled shooter without using the 5-Count and your eyes first.

2. Whether you want to bet on a controlled thrower like a controlled shooter or like a random roller should be based on how the dice look. Is this the type of shot that you want to risk your money on? I bet on players with an edge differently than I bet on random rollers for obvious reasons and you should too. On random rollers, I make one Come bet with double odds. If I win the bet I make another Come bet. The best bet on a random roller is no bet, but if you have to bet make sure you bet in significantly lower amounts than you would on a shooter with a nice shot and a verifiable edge. In a random game, the more you bet the more you lose. When betting on a controlled shooter who has real control, the more you bet the more you win. That win is based on how great their edge is.

3. This one is easy and once again involves using your eyes, which is the theme of the article. If the shooter is not one or two spots away from the stickman, do not bet or just make one Come bet after the 5-Count like you would on a random roller.

4. Intoxication and sleep deprivation are fatal to the dynamic edge of a dice controller. Dice control is a physical endeavor and you should shoot when you are at your best, not when you are drunk or tired. Like the old timers tell me, "Derek Jeter doesn't show up to the game drunk and tired so neither should you". We are not playing for entertainment, we are playing to win.

5. It is important to look at what sets a dice controller is using and how a dice controller is betting on himself. If the shooter is setting for sevens and making Place bets, then you might want to think about using Place bets yourself if you are usually a Come bettor.

I have knocked down many come bets and working bets on good rolls because the bettor did not take heed that I was using and hitting the seven-set on Come Out rolls. They lost money because they were not paying attention. Some craps players at the table are oblivious to what is going on around them; don't let that be you. You should adapt to the shooter not vice versa. If the shooter is establishing a point and then setting the seven and you are a right bettor, there is a good chance your whole spread will be taken away rather quickly. Why did you lose your spread? You lost because you were not paying attention to the fact that the controlled shooter was betting against himself. Craps is a fast game, so be sure to keep your eyes open and pay attention. It just might save you or make you some cash.

Another important thing to remember the next time you are coloring up with a stack of pumpkins, make sure to tell the box man, floor super, and pit boss that Jumbotron Ron sent ya because that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to send you into battle armed with knowledge and if you apply it, you will bring home more bacon than you can get at the breakfast buffet. If you don't use it, more times than not, you will probably just get the buffet.

Jumbotron Ron
Known as Jumbotron Ron on the East and Nevada Ron on the West, he is a advantage dice controller who spends much of his time in the casinos playing with his team The Hitmen and various advantage players from Golden Touch Craps. Known for legendary rolls on both coast he has also been dubbed "Mr. Lucky" and the "Mayor" of the boardwalk by various casino personnel.
Jumbotron Ron
Known as Jumbotron Ron on the East and Nevada Ron on the West, he is a advantage dice controller who spends much of his time in the casinos playing with his team The Hitmen and various advantage players from Golden Touch Craps. Known for legendary rolls on both coast he has also been dubbed "Mr. Lucky" and the "Mayor" of the boardwalk by various casino personnel.